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Post by A on Nov 15, 2017 21:13:38 GMT -7
Have you guys seen or heard of this TV show called "Mom"? It comes on CBS and is about two single mothers (a mom and daughter) in AA. I've seen a few episodes and it's really just more of all the same disease concept, empty spirituality, "solution" that you would find in AA/NA. Kind of sad they make it a comedy when you really think about it. www.imdb.com/title/tt2660806/
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Post by Arizona_Bible_Teacher on Nov 15, 2017 23:37:38 GMT -7
Really demonstrates the problem. They talk about "God," but never Jesus Christ healing anyone and NEVER addiction and its assorted behaviors as sins. Years after their last use of the substance in question they are still referring to themselves as alcoholics and drug addicts, having to go to meetings and rely on a human sponsor to stay "sober." They still laugh with each other about the awful and shameful things they did to others and themselves. They still are cruel to each other, neglectful of their children, blasphemous and sleep around. They lie to each other and their friends all the time which is typical for sitcoms and TV in general. So, the "God" they claim really hasn't brought them to any kind of biblical repentance. The thought has not occurred to them that if their "higher power" is not strong enough to heal them once, for all and forever from alcoholism he/she/it is not worthy to be called "God."
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Post by A on Nov 16, 2017 14:45:55 GMT -7
Arizona, I think you're on point there. The show follows along with the AA teaching on pg. 16 of the big book, "There is, however, a vast amount of fun about it all. I suppose some would be shocked at our seeming worldliness and levity. But just underneath there is deadly earnestness." In other words, we're dead serious about staying sober, but laugh off it's moral implications by joking about all the crazy stuff we did and telling war stories. There is no real, meaningful, Godly sorrow over their sin. As is often said in the rooms, "I'm not a bad person trying to be good, but a sick person trying to get well." The whole mentality and approach toward alcoholism undercuts the need for the gospel of Christ. If you aren't accountable for your sin, you won't look for a Savior.
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Post by chad on Nov 18, 2017 11:26:13 GMT -7
I came across that show and watched an episode once and it gave me the same empty feeling that AA did - a veneer of "spirituality" and humor covering a pervading sense of anxiety and fear that no one wants to admit to. It's so sad how AA teaches it's members that they are sick damaged goods beyond repair for life, and the only relief is sitting in those meetings with all the other damaged people clinging to their idols. That show - at least the episode I watched, does a good job of capturing the dead-end futility of it all. Sadly, to the world that dead-end futility is considered to be living by spiritual principles.
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Post by A on Nov 18, 2017 17:51:23 GMT -7
Yeah I felt the same empty feeling as well. I was grateful not to be trapped in that, but burdened for those who still are.
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